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 khakigirl
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  Posted 07/05/2007 02:27:01 PM
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What's your view on homosexuality? Can they be Christians? How can you befriend them even if what they're doing is wrong in your eyes? What do you think?

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 khakigirl
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  Posted 08/05/2007 10:51:24 AM
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I'm with you. I posted something on mypraize awhile back...I will try to get those posts and add them here...or, you can read it on mypraize. It's on the ladies only forum under homosexuality (i think).

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  Posted 11/07/2007 05:39:47 PM
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I think its fine , and i believe they can be christians , god loves christians and just cause there allittle different shouldnt make a difference to anyone

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  Posted 11/07/2007 08:54:54 PM
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haha yes i guess it would be

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 khakigirl
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  Posted 11/07/2007 10:09:29 PM
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Personally, I believe that homosexuals are VERY UNLIKELY to be Christians, as are drug addicts or porn stars because becoming a Christian takes a full change of heart. You give your heart to God when you accept what Christ did for you on the cross. I have gay friends so don't get me wrong. I love my friends, no matter what their sexual orientation. I just believe what they are doing is wrong.

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 carry_the_cross
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  Posted 26/07/2007 10:15:18 AM
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I don't believe they can be Christians. Clearly in Leviticus God says that people like that will not go to heaven and God doesn't like filthy behaviour like that, so unless they have a change of heart (only through God or someone who God send to them) then they cannot be Christians.

Thats my take.

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  Posted 26/07/2007 10:26:00 PM
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Please clarify using scrīpture. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, just trying to help you. Please post the specific scrīptural reference.

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  Posted 27/07/2007 01:17:34 AM
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I believe anybody could befriend them. (Even homophobes, if they developed tolerance)

I also believe that there are certain cases when a person is born gay. But rarely. So can it be a sin, when you're born with it? But I believe that most of the time people just choose it. But that's me and my crazy opinion.

"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life - only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accourd. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again." John 10:17-18
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  Posted 27/07/2007 12:39:10 AM
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I don't believe that people are BORN gay. I believe that most people are born with a tendency to desire the same sex. Most people (even Christians) have looked at someone of the same sex in a "bad way" before. It is all in how far you take it. The temptation always exists, it's your choice to turn that temptation into sin or to flee from it.

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 teenagewasteland
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  Posted 29/07/2007 11:53:02 PM
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Well, to be a bit technical, there are people in the world who are born with a very rare disorder where they are born with both male and female sexual organs, so say a girl who had this would feel attracted to another girl,but that's only because of her hormones. She'd be fighting her natural desires all her life. So it is possible to be born into this sin. Which raises a question in my mind: if they were born that way, is it really sin?

"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life - only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accourd. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again." John 10:17-18
 carry_the_cross
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  Posted 30/07/2007 12:08:15 AM
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FOr khakigirl:

The Bible clearly and succinctly states in Leviticus 18:22 that "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination," and in Leviticus 20:13, "If a man lies with a male as with a woman both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them." What's the old saying? The Bible says it -- I believe it, that settles it! Leviticus also teaches us that women are unclean during their menstrual cycle, that defecating within the camp was unacceptable lest God step in it while walking in the evening, and a woman giving birth to a male child is considered unclean for a week -- for a female child two weeks. Is this the inerrant Word of God? Not even the most fundamentalist/literalist would claim all of the Levitican Law is the inerrant word of God. For the rest of us, it's not even worth debating.

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  Posted 30/07/2007 01:21:42 PM
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Take a look at 1 Corinthians 10:23 for a minute:

"Looking at it one way, you could say, "Anything goes. Because of God's immense generosity and grace, we don't have to dissect and scrutinize every action to see if it will pass muster." But the point is not to just get by. We want to live well, but our foremost efforts should be to help others live well." (The Message)

"Everything is permissible"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"—but not everything is constructive" (NIV)

"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

In Christ, all things are permissible. God said it in His Word. Christians can do whatever they want to once they have accepted Christ and are under His grace and mercy. This includes murder, homosexuality, etc.

What the Christian needs to realize is that not all things are helpful in their walk with God. Try looking at it that way. We have been given grace and mercy so that all our sins are covered from the past, present, and the future but we need to look at what we're doing to see if it is helpful.

May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight,O Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 19:14 (NIV)
 carry_the_cross
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  Posted 30/07/2007 02:51:27 PM
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So, Jessica, are you trying to say homesexuality is okay for the Christian? Is has been dicussed amongst many Christians and personally I don't think its worth debating as I said before?

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 khakigirl
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  Posted 30/07/2007 04:08:02 PM
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I'm not saying that it is OK. I'm saying that it is permissible, meaning that if a Christian decides to become gay their salvation will not be affected. Nothing can separate Christians from God. Once you are a Christian, you stay a Christian.

As I have said before, if a Christian "decides" to become gay, I would question whether they were a Christian to begin with, but if they truly are, that isn't going to change.

May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight,O Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 19:14 (NIV)
 carry_the_cross
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  Posted 30/07/2007 05:27:33 PM
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I understand. I don't think that is very true. I know that in Romans it says nothing can seperate us from Jesus Christ but you can like not be a Christian after you were already one. Its very possible.

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 khakigirl
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  Posted 30/07/2007 09:26:26 PM
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What do you think is not very true? The scrīpture? My interpretation? Something else?

"but you can like not be a Christian after you were already one"

I'm confused on what this mean. Could you clarify?

This goes for everyone: PLEASE provide more details when you are debating someone.

May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight,O Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 19:14 (NIV)
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